Thanks for the great article dude, its been very helpful in my buying some wordpress themes ready for adsense

Now I’m after some that will do the same for clickbank, so do you have a link to any sites where I can get these wordpress themes for clickbank please?

Thanks!

Alexa seems to have a really low count of links to many sites. Are there answers to why that is?

I’ve only done limited testing with the new Clickbank versions of Talian, (three domains about a week of tests) but not impressed with one of the tests so far.

The main reason I created a Clickbank version was for this jokes site http://www.free-funny-jokes.com/ (can get over 10,000 visitors a day, so great for testing things quickly) which Google recently banned from the AdSense program because of some of the content: I included racist jokes for SEO/traffic reasons (they are the most popular types of jokes searched for online!!) and it resulted in a lot of relevant traffic and a LOT of racist comments on the site (I gave up moderating the comments (I don’t even read the comments now) a long time ago, some people are awful!).

After the AdSense ban I moved to running Clicksor and Chitika ads, (not optimised, just quickly added to the theme code) as replacements to Google AdSense and was making less money than from AdSense (about 60% of AdSense income).

Thought AdSense style Clickbank ads would perform better, but after about a week testing later and they aren’t (made about 80% the money I made from Clicksor/Chitika from Clickbank).

I think it’s the niche/traffic (jokes) as the other two domains I’m testing Clickbank ads on (both in the money making type niche) are fairing much better, not as good as AdSense ads, but if you can’t use AdSense on a site for some reason, worth testing. There’s also adult niches you can’t run AdSense on.

As I suspected, basically some niches are going to work with Clickbank ads and others won’t.

Have made a ‘hacked’ Clicksor/Chitika version of Talian and using it on the jokes site to see what better optimised Clicksor/Chitika ads can achieve (maybe match AdSense revenue).

Gone a little over the top with what you can do with Clicksor/Chitika, so if I decided to make a Clicksor/Chitika version of Talian it won’t be that ad heavy (definitely not sure about the pop unders).

Good news is I see no reason why I can’t incorporate Clicksor/Chitika into Talian, so might be working on an AdSense/Clickbank/Clicksor/Chitika version of Talian soon

It’s about finding what works for each site and if something doesn’t work, try something else.

David

“Automatic redirection on permalink changes”

Some of the redirection is now core WordPress. I’ve not used this plugin http://www.microkid.net/wordpress/permalinks-moved-permanently/ but looks like it might be able to deal with other redirects not dealt with via core WordPress.

I tend not to mess too much with changing the permalink structure on a site even if I’ve made a mistake in the past (like having dates in the URL!). When I have it’s been a case of a lot of manual 301 redirects via a .htaccess file!

Your linking back idea. That’s like Trackbacks that can be posted as comments, problem with automatically linking back to sites that link to you is link spam. If you’ve used a dofollow type plugin on a WordPress blog you get a lot of very poor quality comments just for the link back.

I’m using a heavily modified version of SEO Super Comments (original created by Prelovac) and allowing dofollow links on the commenter’s URL, (I’ve added your URL to the website comment form so you can see it in action) your name at http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/clickbank-ready-wordpress-theme.html?cid=20138 is a link to one of your sites.

It’s sending out PR/Link benefit, (so dofollow) but because these comment pages are so deep (that page above will only have one link to it) the link benefit sent out is very small. In comparison if this page (the main “Clickbank Ready WordPress Theme” post) had dofollow author links and 50 commenter’s had a URL that would take a BIG chunk of link benefit from the site and damage this pages SERPs (all that anchor text that I didn’t SEO!!!).

So using the SEO Super comments plugin with Talian can give a little back to your commenter’s without too much loss to your site. Personally I don’t comment on other peoples sties for link benefit, when I do comment it’s because I want to comment on something or direct visitors to one of my sites (99% of the time it’s I want to comment).

I’ll be releasing my modified version of SEO Super Comments plugin (it will probably only work with Talian) with the next Talian update (I couldn’t get the original SEO Super Comments to work with Talian).

Got a bunch of updates to include and fully test, so could be a while before the update goes out.

Feel free to keep throwing ideas at me, you suggested I look at Clickbank ads for example http://www.45-year-old-millionaire.co.uk/affiliate-revenue-report-5022-for-december-2009.html/comment-page-1#comment-6828 wasn’t aware at the time you could have AdSense style Clickbank ads

David

-Automatic redirection on permalink changes? But maybe this is more a plugin thing.

-maybe something that can help with more links such as something that will display other people who link to your site and reward with back. I do not know. I think these are ideas.

I do not know if it would do any good but what about asking people if they have SEO or make money online ideas that could be added to future theme modifications. But only add the really good ones as I know it is hard work and you do not want too many cooks spoiling the broth. I think you know the most, Prelovac knows a lot too. But maybe someone else has ideas for a wish list on how the theme could be improved?

I’m trying to take this into account with the new Clickbank/AdSense theme by allowing customers to have as many or as few of each type of ad as they choose (every ad can be disabled independently). I find on some sites there’s not enough advertisers to give a good selection of high quality AdSense ads to fill the 3 content type ads and for a site like that it might work to have the main larger rectangle floating ad as AdSense and a couple of Clickbank ads on the sidebar and further down the page, this way AdSense has to use the best CTR location for the best AdSense ads and you haven’t wasted the rest of the page.

What I currently have running at http://www.warcraft-world.co.uk/ is a bit over the top, (there’s 13 ad blocks on the home page, 6 AdSense and 7 Clickbank ) but it shows what’s possible.

I’ve had some really good ideas for improvements resulting from having to solve problems associated with trying to mesh two ad systems together.

For example I solved the issue of only being able to have one main floating content ad (one AdSense and one Clickbank ad together wouldn’t work space wise). Customers can select which ad (Clickbank or AdSense) is the main ad and that goes in the floating content area (highest CTR) on the site above it’s AdSense. The secondary ad goes into a lower content post on archive pages (not used on Single and Post pages: at least not yet anyway), if you look at the home page of the WOW site above there’s a Clickbank ad floating in the content of the 5th article: which post the secondary ad lands on is adjustable as well, so you could have the first 2 articles having an ad each, one Clickbank one AdSense or article 1 and 7 or 1 and 10….

I’m giving this theme a LOT of flexibility, ranging from 0 ads (so just the SEO theme) to anywhere up to about 18 ad units if all the Sidebar Clickbank ad widgets were added!

Going to try to incorporate AdSense channels better into this version if it’s still possible to use channels with the AdSense legacy code (ages since I used channels other than URL channels).

When I first made AdSense themes my PHP skills wasn’t very good, still not great at PHP, but I’m getting better and can solve many more problems now.

BTW a lot of people don’t like discussing their ad income in public especially when linking it to specific niches/sites, gives away information others can use and that can result in more competition. So we might find few share their experiences Personally I like to hear success stories, especially if I’ve helped the person: makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside

David

Clickbank pays. I have used them and it is possible to make nice fat sales, if you site is quality, not light and lame content. But you have to be able to write something and be sincere. As always I am looking forward to see the data on your 45-year-old-millionaire site.

I have about doubled my income from your theme, that is why I am such a loyal reader of your blog.

However, I very curious about other readers experiences with your theme or Clickbank. What are the pluses and minuses from Adsense vs Clickbank in some of your readers experiences? I see some feedback.

I know this is not a forum, but I am curious, how the other guys/gals are doing with Clickbank or themes etc?

I’ve been testing the Clickbank only theme on some relatively low traffic sites that don’t make a lot of money through AdSense and the results haven’t been great, it’s very early days in the tests, because it’s low traffic and a couple of Clickbank orders would tip the scales the other way. It’s a case with AdSense you just need a click to make money, with Clickbank you need a click and the advertisers to sell the products to make money.

Because of this I decided to create a version with both types of ads available. Working on the duel Clickbank/AdSense theme right now with a test version at http://www.warcraft-world.co.uk/

Not figured it all out yet as there’s going to be issues with the main content ad (the one that floats to the right of the main content) as it would probably look awful having 2 ads (one Clickbank one AdSense) side by side.

So users will have to choose which one they want (Clickbank or AdSense via the settings). By default I’ll probably set all AdSense ads on (like the original Talian with AdSense/SEO) and most Clickbank ads turned on (floating Clickbank ad disabled).

Currently got it running via two files adsense.php, change the Google AdSense publisher id and you are good to go and an equivalent clickbank.php file where you change the Clickbank username and it’s good to go.

Will be very interesting to see how a duel AdSense/Clickbank theme performs overall.

David